tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post116562929885954463..comments2024-03-22T03:16:20.581-04:00Comments on Boanerges: Letters Along the WayNate Mihelishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17702094516356506877noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1166066519168654432006-12-13T22:21:00.000-05:002006-12-13T22:21:00.000-05:00yea, nate...it is insanely loaded with theology.an...yea, nate...<BR/>it is insanely loaded with theology.<BR/>and i'm with you on 115.3 - right along the last few chapters of Job.smloganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06211625148297433287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1166025612423495202006-12-13T11:00:00.000-05:002006-12-13T11:00:00.000-05:00Mihelis,You need to change the e-mail address on y...Mihelis,<BR/>You need to change the e-mail address on your comment notification. Every time I comment here, I get an e-mail saying that your cbvb address does not exist. Still clinging to the past I see. Time to move on.Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01441664652254937121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165981119988111522006-12-12T22:38:00.000-05:002006-12-12T22:38:00.000-05:00G and Logan:Nice additions. Logan, that verse is o...G and Logan:<BR/><BR/>Nice additions. Logan, that verse is one of my favorites in the whole Pentateuch. Probably second only to Ps 115:3 in the OTNate Mihelishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17702094516356506877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165973505190836022006-12-12T20:31:00.000-05:002006-12-12T20:31:00.000-05:00One who argues with his Creator is in grave danger...One who argues with his Creator is in grave danger, one who is like a mere shard among the other shards on the ground! The clay should not say to the potter, “What in the world are you doing? Your work lacks skill!”<BR/>This is what the Lord says, the Holy One of Israel, the one who formed him, concerning things to come: “How dare you question me about my children! How dare you tell me what to do with the work of my own hands!" Isa 45:9, 11Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01441664652254937121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165797588862970352006-12-10T19:39:00.000-05:002006-12-10T19:39:00.000-05:00pitchford,if you would just cool it with walking t...pitchford,<BR/>if you would just cool it with walking the lonely road, everyone else could get back to hand-holding.<BR/><BR/>baylor, <BR/>you know (as well as i) that thomas is the authority on boy-bands. leave that genre to him...<BR/><BR/>nate,<BR/>i too am with you on this, and in my experience it has easily been the most unpopular of all the doctrines i embrace.<BR/><BR/>certainly the God who sits in the heavens and does whatever pleases him needs no justification from men - and nothing is more frustrating than when people begin their theological rant with: "i just don't think it's fair that God..." sadly, i've even had profs in grad school use that line.<BR/><BR/>as for texts that inform the discussion, i'll never forget the day i wasn't speed-reading through deuteronomy (baylor and hall: stop hearing schwarzeneggar) and stumbled over 28:63 "It shall come about that as the LORD delighted over you to prosper you, and multiply you, so the LORD will delight over you to make you perish and destroy you..."smloganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06211625148297433287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165689907794499112006-12-09T13:45:00.000-05:002006-12-09T13:45:00.000-05:00Good post, although I agree with Baylor on the use...Good post, although I agree with Baylor on the use of the term. I think you are flirting with an open view if you don't admit God's sovereignty over the damnation of the lost...although people do it without realizing the implications.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I thought that was a sweatervest...I will still defend them. I am sure there is some sort of illustrative or metaphorical use they could be put to.robertlhallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00850404937827139030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165677303061224212006-12-09T10:15:00.000-05:002006-12-09T10:15:00.000-05:00If you would just cool it with the hand-holding, I...If you would just cool it with the hand-holding, I'll walk the same lonely road with you guys. I appreciate all the textual evidence brought to bear, I tolerate all the Kittel-and sweater-vest slurs, and I agree with the theology espoused. Which is why I keep coming back...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165640747666890452006-12-09T00:05:00.000-05:002006-12-09T00:05:00.000-05:00NateJust a quick thought on the idea of God "passi...Nate<BR/><BR/>Just a quick thought on the idea of God "passing over" those who are not elected for salvation. As I read the Bible, I do not read the specific words that "God chooses people to burn in hell." What I do read is - <BR/><BR/>Josh. 11:18-20<BR/>"Joshua made war a long time with all those kings. There was not a city that made peace with the children of Israel, save the Hivites the inhabitants of Gibeon: all other they took in battle. For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might destroy them utterly, and that they might have no favour, but that He might destroy them, as the Lord commanded Moses" <BR/><BR/>I Peter 2:8 <BR/>And, “He is the stone that makes people stumble, the rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they do not obey God’s word, and so they meet the fate that was planned for them.<BR/><BR/>Did God "pass over" Pharaoh or was there an activity by God to bring Pharaoh to the actions he committed. Did God "pass over" Judas or was there an activity by God to bring Judas to the actions he committed. (If it was predicted before Judas was even born, it does not seem that Judas was "passed over." <BR/><BR/>I am no scholar, but to remove God from the damnation of the wicked seems to go against the teachings of the Bible. <BR/><BR/>In conclusion, I understand the difficulty and the caution that must be taken on the subject, but if you are in the minority on this truth, than let’s hold hands and walk this lonely road together. (of course you can hold you wife’s hand with your other hand and I will hold my wife’s hand with my other hand) What a weird mental picture this brings.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11984409916349055749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165635763309166382006-12-08T22:42:00.000-05:002006-12-08T22:42:00.000-05:00Agreed as to the roll of context -- we will have t...Agreed as to the roll of context -- we will have to agree to disagree regarding the sweater vest.T. Baylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662602280196411572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165635223521351202006-12-08T22:33:00.000-05:002006-12-08T22:33:00.000-05:00I catch your drift, but typical of my minimalistic...I catch your drift, but typical of my minimalistic approach, would not invest that much meaning into the term itself. I'm okay with using it as "simple determinism" as the word just means to choose. Obviously the context/discourse is what determines (no pun intended) the "biblical nuance" See Luke 14:7 or Acts 15:25 for example. True, TDNT would surely have something to say here; I'd check my version, but we were short on TP last month...then again, don't you have the family pack...I mean full set? :-)<BR/><BR/>As for the picture...confirmed. My wife actually changed it. For the record, I did suggest putting a sweater vest over the tank top for your sake, but she wouldn't let me.Nate Mihelishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17702094516356506877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21940273.post-1165634393720388122006-12-08T22:19:00.000-05:002006-12-08T22:19:00.000-05:00Mihelis,Just two things from me; first, I wonder i...Mihelis,<BR/><BR/>Just two things from me; first, I wonder if part of the difficulty of this problem springs from our use of "election" as a theosophical term for "determinism." I prefer not to speak of an election of the lost to damnation, not for the purpose of defending God, but because I think when we use the term "election" to speak of simple determinism we might be destroying some of the biblical nuance of the word -- the gracious act of God in setting his heart to love his enemies and give himself to them. However, when it comes to an issue of determinism, any who argue for a comprehensive doctrine of decrees has to acknowledge this. So perhaps the issue lies in the matter of defining "election" -- perhaps this is a job for TDNT!<BR/><BR/>Second, it appears that you have changed your profile picture to a picture of Nich Lechey (or is that Justin Timberlake) is holding Noah . . . can you confirm this?T. Baylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662602280196411572noreply@blogger.com